Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 00:00

Hi, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Caring & Able. Today is a very special day for me because not only am I going to be discussing my favorite denture products, I’m discussing it with somebody who I love and respect for many reasons and we’ll get into that, but I’d like to introduce Dr. Lorin Berland to our series so welcome. 

Dr. Lorin Berland: 00:27 

Thanks for having me. 

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 00:30

So today we’re going to discuss everything you’ve always wanted to know about denture products, and there’s a lot of denture products on the market and my patients will tell you that I always give them one free round of all Dr. Berland’s products. Why? Because they’re ADA accepted, which is very important we’ll talk about that later. B, because I think they are superior and C, because once they try them, they’re hooked, so let’s get into the meat and potatoes from Dr. Berland. First, I want for our audience to know your background, you’re a dentist, but tell us a little bit more about what you’re doing now.

Dr. Lorin Berland: 01:19

Well first, let me start at the beginning. I come from a family of bad teeth, I come from a family of denture wears, so dentures were always important to me. My grandmother used to corner me and when I was a little kid, if you’re a dentist I’d have all my teeth, because pretty much most of the older people I knew were dentures, but it was a big deal they wanted me to be a dentist so that people would be able to save their teeth and I started out in dentistry, working in a dental lab making dentures. Then I graduated to working with a dentist when he was doing the wax trials[02:07] and delivering the dentures and processing, and that’s when I really fell in love with dentistry and with dentures. Because dentures were the original cosmetic dentistry. You talk about plastic surgery, these little things made out of plastic, they totally transform a person’s face, as you know, and everybody who wears dentures know, it changes the entire bottom half of their face and it just was incredible, then I decided I wanted to be a dentist and I went to dental school I practice for 35 years, and the last 20 years of practicing I was developing these dental products because I knew that there was so many advances in home care for people with teeth, but nothing new had come out for dental wares, and whatever was out there was grossly inadequate. I knew that all the denture adhesives had dangerous amounts of zinc, that could cause Alzheimer’s, senility and worse, I knew that the tooth cleansers [03:18] didn’t do anything they didn’t kill any of the dangerous pathogens like Candida, trap staph, actinomyces, E. coli and these are the major causes of thrush and pneumonia. And then there was no brushes for them, there were no convenient wipes for them. Basically, dentistry has been ignoring these types of patients, so I was working on these different products, I didn’t come up with them on my own, my patients, I was listening to my patients, what do you need? And when they would tell me, I went to work on them, and so I worked on these different formulations for about almost 20 years, and I got FDA approval, and then I did something that no other denture care company did. I got the ADA seal of acceptance and that’s a that’s a story of itself, but even then, I wasn’t doing anything with the product other than sharing them with my patients and with my friends and their patients.  I was still practicing and then I had a bad bike accident broke a lot of bones, and that’s my new career, Dr. B. Dental solutions.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 04:43

Okay, well, that’s some story. Let’s talk about, and I know these products, you could be interviewing me, I know them so well. But I have your products with me. The first product my very, very favorite product, the Adhesadent, and why do I like the Adhesadent? Because my patients tell me when they try it that it blows the other ones out of the water. Tell me, what makes it so special? Don’t talk about it for so long. We have so many things to talk about, I want to keep everyone’s interest and want to go through all the product lines, because they’re so important. But the Adhesadent, what makes it so great and talk about zinc again, because I don’t think people understand how dangerous zinc can be in products.

Dr. Lorin Berland: 05:37

Well, you know, zinc isn’t really bad it’s vitamins you need some zinc, but when there’s too much zinc it’s been proven that it causes neuropathy, senility, and Alzheimer’s and the FDA noticed that, I noticed that, that’s why the stereotype of the dental wear is like the old the grandfather on the Simpsons. 

It’s a doddering old man, and it’s kind of like the Mad Hatter’s of England. They went mad because of all the mercury poisoning. Well, there isn’t that much zinc in the adhesive, but when you put it in your mouth, and you leave it in there, the mucosa really absorbs it, and what makes it worse is the other adhesives besides having so much zinc in, you have to use a lot of it, you squish it in there and you’d swallow it, and so the FDA noticed and then 10 years ago, they mandated that they reduce the amount of zinc in their product and yeah they did, but they didn’t change anything, so the zinc was the active ingredient that made the copolymer for retention work. They took out the zinc, the copolymer didn’t work, so we created a new copolymer that didn’t need zinc. Taking the next step I was developing these products with my patients and their help and they all, not all, but most of them as you know, they suffer from dry mouth, and dry mouth is besides being very uncomfortable, it’s very unhealthy. You need the saliva to flush out the toxins in your mouth and it’s important for digestion, and for a denture wear dry mouth is the enemy of retention. Yeah, you can’t get a good feel with a dry mouth, so then I decided, well, let’s make a moisturizing denture adhesive, it’s not just enough to not have zinc let’s make it more comfortable, and let’s make it clean well, so we added some moisturizing, natural ingredients like Aloe Vera, vitamins A, D and E, and…

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 08:05 

Coconut Oil.

Dr. Lorin Berland: 08:05

Secret sauce [08:05], and also, we made it so it cleans up better too.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 08:12

So let me ask you a question. How much adhesive should you use? brief answer and how long should it last? Let’s talk about it in partial dentures, which means where you have some teeth left, and complete dentures, which means that you have no teeth left, how much should you use? And how long? Do you expect it? Should you use it three times a day? After every meal? once in the morning?

Dr. Lorin Berland: 08:38

Well, being a dentist, I didn’t want a 2-day hold or even a 24 hour hold because hygiene to me is the equivalent of health and they go together, and these things you don’t really want to leave them in your mouth for three consecutive meals, so I really tried to get to hold for 8 to 12 hours, because I want to really encourage people to clean their mouth and clean the denture because they could be biological sponges if they’re not taken care of. Typically, I expect 8 to 12 hours, so that said everybody’s different, we hear people say it last 24 hours, and they got to pry it out, and then we also hear some people tend last four to six hours, everybody’s different.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 09:35

How much should you use?

Dr. Lorin Berland: 09:37

I recommend as little as possible.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 09:41

So, you experiment with it. I always got patients to do dots like two in the front, one in the middle and like a thin line along the back end of it, if it’s an upper denture so that when you push it in, it actually seals the denture. That’s what I recommend is that okay?

Dr. Lorin Berland: 09:59

That’s a great way to do it. As I said, everybody needs to experiment. When I developed Adhesadent, I wanted to work with less, less is best, but you have to experiment because a lot has to do with how the denture fits in the first place. I have a video on YouTube how I recommend using it, but other people are different, I recommend you make sure the dentures dry on the inside, you put on the dots, as you said in the strip, and then you rinse with warm water while you soak the denture in warm water, and that kind of warms and it helps moisturize everything and then you pop in the denture. We made the adhesive work well with water, because we want the moisturizing effect, and we also want the seal effect. Some people do that, some people do better with a Q tip. I just find this convenient because you’re rinsing with water and you’re soaking, 10 seconds is all it takes and typically some of our users they say that a tube lasts anywhere from four to six weeks. Which is a lot longer, the competition typically lasts about two weeks.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 11:17

Very important questions. Where do you buy it? Where’s the cheapest place to buy it? Are there any specials? Any codes that people can use? And how much does it cost about? Is there a range? So talk about that for a minute. 

Dr. Lorin Berland: 11:37

Most of our products with the exception of the sonic cleaner, the new ultrasonic cleaner, are in the 10-dollar range, we have sales all the time and promotions and specials for recurring orders, but the best place to buy it is at Dr.Bdentalsolutions.com, we have some products on Amazon and Amazon Prime, and all of our products should be on Amazon Prime soon.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 12:14

That’s great, so the best place to buy it is really Dr.bdentalsolutions.com for the best prices, then you get on the mailing list and the there’s specials…

Dr. Lorin Berland: 12:22

Then you get the best prices and the benefits are on Dr.bdentalsolutions.com 

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 12:27

If you’re lazy person like me and you’re going to forget Dr.bdentalsolutions.com, you go to Amazon, right we got to move on and you’ve got to talk quicker because I want to get all these questions in, we need to have briefer answers because people are going to want to know so many things and I have to ask more questions, so the adhesives sticks in the denture, now this is the biggest issue that I have with my caregivers, they want to know, how do I remove it? So I give, like I said, the entire product line to every new denture patient so except for the sonic cleaner which I’ll get into later, but the next product that I give them, a full one, because this is the best product the Cleanserdent, the Cleanerdent I always call it Cleanserdent because it does cleanse, the Cleanerdent, and that removes the denture adhesive as well as cleans your own teeth if it’s a partial, it cleans the denture, and what else does it do? It cleans implants, it cleans all kinds of appliances because this is good not just for dentures but for retainers. So, if you’re thinking about using this with your grandmother’s teeth, you could also use it with your kids’ retainers. Let’s talk about how does this remove the adhesive? How much it costs. 

You get it on Amazon and Dr.bdentalsolutions.com, and what makes it so special? and please brief answers because I got a ton of to ask you

Dr. Lorin Berland: 14:03

You got to remember this is my life, this is my mission in life. Anyway, all of my patients as you said they want to know, how do I get it out of the denture? But more important than getting it out of the denture was getting it out of their mouth, because it accumulates biofilm and that’s full of bacteria and fungus, and there was no real way to get it out. You know people give me these caca mammy brushes, these denture toothbrushes that you can’t use on anything and you can’t use toothpaste on a denture because it’s too abrasive and causes scratches and it really creates a biological sponge and that will cause it’s to stink and stain over time. We created Cleanerdent paste that’s half as abrasive as baby toothpaste and it’s the least abrasive toothpaste on the market and It’s got vitamins A, D and E, aloe vera, coconut oil, Teatree oil[15:04], and people do love it, that’s for sure. And then we are asked, well what can I use, I can’t use those denture brushes because I can’t put them in my mouth and I can’t use them on a denture,  so we created the denture mouth toothbrush, you can use it with the Cleanerdent paste it comes in three fun colors green, blue and white, and it’s extra soft bristles, and it’s got special design, like a groove that fits on the ridges, and you can be simultaneously cleaning your ridges and cleaning the cheeks, the tongue, the palate, get all that adhesive off, getting all the biofilm off, and it’s called specially formulated to clean on implants so that if you’ve got a snap-in denture, it’s perfect. In fact, our toothpaste, the Cleanerdent and our brush are the only real utensils, cleaning tools to clean implant and snap-in dentures.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 16:11

Can I interrupt? I have been looking for the perfect toothbrush for my patients, and even if they don’t wear a denture, the fact that it has this ball, which makes it much easier to grab on to, the bristles are so soft, you can clean your gums, people don’t realize that bacteria build up on your gums, so you can clean your gums, you can clean your palate, you could use both sides, even with your natural dentition and most of all, the grip is amazing for anyone. When I give it to my older patients, they absolutely love it and if nothing else, this is the product that everyone should own. If they have retainers, if they have partials, if they have dentures, the toothbrush is amazing, and how much does this cost? 

Dr. Lorin Berland: 17:08

It’s in the $10 range. 

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 17:11

Okay, fair and it lasts a while, I say put it in the dishwasher, I tell my patients. Is that okay?

Dr. Lorin Berland: 17:17

Oh, you can put it in the dishwasher or the best thing is you can put the bristle the head in the ultrasonic cleaner with the liquid crystal and as you said, the good thing about the Cleanerdent and the brush is you don’t have to be toothless to love Cleanerdent paste and love the new toothbrush.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 17:39

Right, because it’s gentler than baby toothpaste, so can you swallow it? What’s the danger in swallowing the cleaner?

Dr. Lorin Berland: 17:48

Well, there’s no fluoride in it, so there’s really no danger, but while you’re bringing this up, when we got the ADA seal of acceptance, they wouldn’t give me the ADA seal of acceptance on this at first because there was no category for a toothpaste that’s good for dental prosthetics and good in the mouth. They said this is the first toothpaste that ever gone for this category, and they said come back in a year after it’s been in the market, and we’ll reevaluate it, and then when we exported on the market, they granted us the ADA seal.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 18:30

Let me just rehash, so we have the Adhesadent, which is my favorite product. If I had to choose one it would be between the toothbrush and the Adhesadent that you must own if you’re a denture wearer. Even if your dentures fit snugly, this gives you that extra boost that you never have to worry. Then we have the denture, the Cleanerdent which is good for teeth, gums, you could use it if you don’t wear dentures, so if you are sharing it with your husband who does wear dentures, this is a great product, there’s no fluoride, so if you swallow a little of it, it’s not going to hurt you. 

It removes the denture adhesive from your palate, I won’t swear that it works with other products but it works with the adhesive…

Dr. Lorin Berland: [19:16]

It works with the works with every denture adhesive.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: [19:18]

Okay, good to know. So, if you love the stuff with zinc and you don’t care about the zinc, then you can just use this to remove it or get dementia. The toothbrushes amazing. The next product that I give to all of my patients and I don’t get reports on this so much are the Portable Cleanerdent Wipes, are they the same formulation as the Cleanerdent paste? And can you use the wipes on your own teeth?

Dr. Lorin Berland: 19:48

You can use them on your own teeth. They’re individually wrapped packets and they moisturize, they have the same formula as the toothpaste in liquid form and for denture wearer, they’ve really been a godsend. That’s what we hear because when they go out, they get food caught under their partial or their denture, and it’s embarrassing. Now they can just go to the restroom, cleaned their gums, clean their denture and throw it out and pop it right back in, and we’re hearing a lot of off the shelf uses. I’m hearing from dentists who use it to get stain off after they drink red wine or espresso, and what we’ve really heard is from a lot of dog owners, and now we use it on our dog to clean their dog’s teeth. I had never thought about that.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 20:47

Oh my gosh, I’m going to try that, and I have to be really honest to everybody out there. I’ve never opened one, I haven’t, I just did for the first time, and it smells like you want to use it on your teeth. It’s the most delicious beer minty. 

Dr. Lorin Berland: 21:03

It’s very refreshing.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 21:05

I’m going to I’m going to clean my ring with it when I get off. Alright, so the other product that I love comes in two sizes, I only brought the large size because I was pretty happy when you sent me the large size, I only have the small sizes, is the liquid crystal, which I think is a great name, and it’s what you put in the ultrasonic cleaner or you could just put it in a glass to soak your dentures. Should you use water with it? Should you use it undiluted? How much does it cost for the large and small? I want to know everything quickly.

Dr. Lorin Berland: 21:37

The economy size is good for 45 to 50 cleanings. Basically, all you need to do is fill up a cup, and its liquid so it dissolves instantly. It’s not like a tablet or powder that can lose it strengths or stack caking, and depending on the water quality, you don’t know how it dissolves. This dissolves instantly and perfectly. That’s why we made it a liquid, and it’s much more effective that way, and you can dilute it, just four pumps into like a cup of water or perfectly in the ultrasonic cleaner, and you put your appliance in and if it’s a hard appliance, it doesn’t matter how long you leave it in, but everything should be disinfected within 15 minutes, depending how dirty it is at first and if we also have it in a small size, that’s good for about 10 cleanings, it’s portable. It’s the only cell cleanser that kills Candida, strep staph, actinomycosis and E. coli, and that’s the point, did you know that a denture wearer is twice as likely to get pneumonia or thrush as the non-denture wearer? And if they sleep in their denture, they’re four times as likely, and why? and because of these dirty dentures, and this is a big secret, and it’s very serious. We don’t know how many people are suffering and even dying, and they don’t know, a couple years ago, the ADA did a big article on me on these products, and I heard like in the first week from two dentists, one in New Mexico whose mother had severe stomach problems. No doctor could figure it out, [inaudible 23:31] to the Mayo Clinic, it turned out that get a thrush infection from her inner stomach they traced to a denture, and I also heard from another dentist in Seattle, who told me that his father died 30 years of pneumonia and he always thought it was from pneumonia. From his denture when he read that article, he had to contact me because this is fantastic, and so what I’m saying is, I mean these are 2 dentists who knows all the people out there that are suffering, and nobody knows it’s their dirty denture.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 24:05

I’ll tell everyone a story. Many of you don’t even know that your grandparents wear dentures, and I always say it’s the second husband second wife syndrome that their new husbands or wives don’t know that they were partials or dentures so they can’t take them out. I didn’t know my own grandmother had dentures. I was actually in dental school. I didn’t know that she had partials. Until one day, she was very sick, and I went into her bathroom and I saw them in the glass, so who knows how many people are getting sick from keeping their dentures in endlessly. Like maybe they take them out. They rinse them really quick and they put them back in their mouth, but they’re not resting the tissues which is necessary, and they’re not cleansing them properly, which can lead to all of the things that you just discussed. It’s really important if we’re going to give one message to the denture wearers out there, information that you need to know is that you need to let your tissues and your mouth rest for at least eight hours, and maybe wait for your spouse to go to sleep and take them out secretly and put them in a drawer in the liquid crystals, because it’s really important to let your mouth rest and to clean the dentures and to clean your teeth. So now we’ve discussed how to keep in…

Dr. Lorin Berland: 25:23

Can I just add one thing to that?

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 25:25

Yes, you can add one thing. Only one. I only need one.

Dr. Lorin Berland: 25:28

You know dentures are my life, and denture wearers, I’ll be very short, a lot of people cannot sleep without their dentures, as I’m sure you know, their jaw will over close, they can start having problems in the temporomandibular joint. Some people if they’ve got over dentures, you know, the snapping dentures with implants, if they don’t sleep with them, the implants if they have an upper and lower, yeah, they could be biting it, it’s like a spike in their upper edge. The important thing is, it’s not important that they don’t wear them when they’re sleeping. I didn’t want to say that. What you’re saying is what the important thing is they take them out and they clean the dentures and the important thing is before liquid crystal, there really was no effective disinfectant, but still, as you said, they’ve got to let the tissues breathe, you just can’t leave them in 24 seven.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 26:31

Let’s discuss the amount of time. So, you take out the denture, I always tell my patients to let their mouth press but most of my patients in all honesty were full upper, full lower and there’s no issues. I have very few people with over dentures, but I do hear you, if you have the spikes sticking out of your mouth and you close your mouth, you could really damage you’re yourself. So yeah, we don’t want you to be hurt, but if you can take them out and let the rest, yes, that’s great. If you can’t, you want to make sure that they’re clean, 100% clean, there’s no strip, there’s no thrush, there’s nothing that can cause pneumonia, there’s nothing that could cause you to get sick from your own dentures. The liquid crystal is the first plate cleaning product that removes 100% of the bad bacteria. Correct?

Dr. Lorin Berland: 27:16

Correct.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 27:17

Sparkling clean, and the only way that you can make them even cleaner than just soaking them would be if you used an ultrasonic cleaner, and I love this, I don’t want to tell you how I use it, I don’t have dentures. Maybe I will tell you, I do soak my jewelry in it, and I do appreciate that Dr. B actually gives you batteries, who does that? and the charging port so that you can charge it, the batteries, I guess are a backup, right? So, you charge the batteries? 

Dr. Lorin Berland: 27:54

Right. Depending on where you are or whatever you want to do. 

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 27:57

This is a new model, I have the old model, so this is the first time I’ve seen it, and it’s packaged so beautifully. How much is this?

   

Dr. Lorin Berland: 28:07

I think it retails for $29.95, and we always have sales on that, this is definitely worth it, it lasts. It’s the first sonic cleaner, there’s so many things that it has. One you can fit both top and bottom on it, the other one you can’t. It’s got a timer, 5, 10, 15 minutes, as you pointed out, it’s got USB and battery, and it’s very quiet, and I forgot what the cycles are, but it’s really works. There’s nothing on the market for that price. Nothing for double the price.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 28:50

Not even for jewelry, so if your husband has it, don’t tell him you’re using it to clean them.

Dr. Lorin Berland: 28:55

Well, I have to tell you, I used to always give out sonic cleaners with every removable appliance in my practice, and I can’t tell you how many women wanted two, one for their jewelry and one for their dentures, so I gave them two.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 29:12

I’m telling you this as a friend, I have a piece in my stockpile and I give it to the person that has the denture that I’m giving the denture products to and then the caregiver always asked for one and I say no, they need to buy their own because this is not this is not a toothbrush for everyone, even though it is for everyone, I’m too cheap to give it to them, for 10 bucks buy your own, but this product, I’m telling you, this is the beauty of it, and the bristles. Why are there two rows for the ridges?

Dr. Lorin Berland: 29:49

Two rows for the ridges? You mean the big head?

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 29:52

Why are there two rows separated? What was the design?

Dr. Lorin Berland: 29:56

To work ridges, to really get the ridge, it wraps around the ridge and if you’ve got an upper denture implant, it really wraps around, it’s very comfortable, if you have those straight bristles, it hurts if you don’t have teeth.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 30:14

Right, you could use this on your tongue, you could use this on your cheeks. 

Dr. Lorin Berland: 30:20

Also, funny you should say, but that groove in the middle and also the small calf down the top. It’s really cool because actually there’s less gagging, and you can brush simultaneously your tongue and your palate, and that as you know, is so important, and very few people do, and those tongue scrapers are extremely uncomfortable but because of the design of these two bristles, there’s less gag reflex, and you do it in half the time.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 30:52

Wow. Well listen, I love your products. I really do. I would not have you on my show if I wasn’t a believer and I honest to God, I would not recommend another product because I really truly believe that your adhesive is the best, the liquid crystals are great, the wipes, there’s nothing like it. You’ve really conquered the entire dentist denture industry like no one else, and you deserve a huge spot on the shelves, which I hope you get someday, but until that happens, Dr.bdentalsolutions.com or on Amazon. Do you have anything else? Any other funny stories that you want to tell? Or what can you add to this conversation that our listeners would get food out of?

Dr. Lorin Berland: 31:42

Well, I just want to say this really is the culmination of my life I’ve been saying for 20 years. Well, actually, since I got into dentistry, since I worked in the dental lab, I said this is my life, and I’m really glad that I got here.

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 32:06

I love the new packaging. I love the colors that you chose. They’re happy, and I think your products.

Dr. Lorin Berland: 32:12

I’m really gratified by the response we’ve gotten from denture wearers all over American and Canada, I know I did the right thing. So many millions of people have been ignored by Big Pharma?

Dr. Alisa Kauffman: 32:30

That’s true, and the products, the ingredients, you don’t understand every one of your ingredients or something you can pronounce and you know that they are found in nature, which I love. So, I appreciate everything that you do for my denture wearers. I appreciate the fact that you’ve taken time out of your busy schedule to be here, and you know how much I adore everything that you teach me about dentures and you’re my go to person, so thanks again, and thank you all for listening to this episode of Caring & Able.